Comments on: Keep Digging http://www.rumromanismrebellion.net/2012/08/20/keep-digging/ "We beg no longer; we entreat no more; we petition no more. We defy them!" - William Jennings Bryan Fri, 24 May 2013 18:14:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Arizona Bobcat http://www.rumromanismrebellion.net/2012/08/20/keep-digging/comment-page-1/#comment-59358 Arizona Bobcat Wed, 22 Aug 2012 11:50:28 +0000 http://www.rumromanismrebellion.net/?p=12416#comment-59358 I will be glad when this joke of a primary is over (Barber is set to win big) and our nominee can get down to the business of better defining the lines of battle against Martha McSally. Make no mistake, she is going to be a formidable foe. The district make-up may lean Barber's way and he will have the early money edge, but McSally has the advantage when it comes to how this state and region are thinking right now. She also has a compelling TV presence and will tie Barber with everything Southern Arizonans dislike about Obama. Outside groups will also weigh in heavily with anti-Barber ads. I like the moxis that Barber showed when he dismantled the feckless Heinz on KUAT. He also showed a lot of grit when he debated Kelly, who is a far better presenter and speaker than Heinz. Barber has also showed a disturbing tendency to pander and obfuscate when it comes to some of his early votes in Congress, whether or not he would have supported the Affordable Care Act and even his support for a Democratic president. McSally is smart and able enough to seize on those openings and deny Barber any vain hopes he may harbor about picking off voters who may otherwise lean GOP. Barber needs to be stronger and more forthright about being the Democratic Party's nominee for Congress. He needs to appeal to independents by laying out in stark detail the many ways that the Romney-McSally agenda would hurt Southern Arizona. In an election where the national lines of debate are going to be very stark and clear, we should be wary of anyone who is not direct with the voters on precisely where he stands. I will be glad when this joke of a primary is over (Barber is set to win big) and our nominee can get down to the business of better defining the lines of battle against Martha McSally. Make no mistake, she is going to be a formidable foe. The district make-up may lean Barber’s way and he will have the early money edge, but McSally has the advantage when it comes to how this state and region are thinking right now. She also has a compelling TV presence and will tie Barber with everything Southern Arizonans dislike about Obama. Outside groups will also weigh in heavily with anti-Barber ads.

I like the moxis that Barber showed when he dismantled the feckless Heinz on KUAT. He also showed a lot of grit when he debated Kelly, who is a far better presenter and speaker than Heinz. Barber has also showed a disturbing tendency to pander and obfuscate when it comes to some of his early votes in Congress, whether or not he would have supported the Affordable Care Act and even his support for a Democratic president. McSally is smart and able enough to seize on those openings and deny Barber any vain hopes he may harbor about picking off voters who may otherwise lean GOP.

Barber needs to be stronger and more forthright about being the Democratic Party’s nominee for Congress. He needs to appeal to independents by laying out in stark detail the many ways that the Romney-McSally agenda would hurt Southern Arizona. In an election where the national lines of debate are going to be very stark and clear, we should be wary of anyone who is not direct with the voters on precisely where he stands.

]]> By: J.C. Higgins http://www.rumromanismrebellion.net/2012/08/20/keep-digging/comment-page-1/#comment-59352 J.C. Higgins Tue, 21 Aug 2012 20:34:14 +0000 http://www.rumromanismrebellion.net/?p=12416#comment-59352 Heinz is correct when he says the other Dems on Approps voted for the bill. That was before it was amended to refuse $$$ to Dupnik. Heinz & only 1 other dem (Pancrazi) voted for the bill on 3rd read. Heinz is obfuscating. He did pander to the Republicans many times during 2011 & 2012 sessions. Heinz is correct when he says the other Dems on Approps voted for the bill. That was before it was amended to refuse $$$ to Dupnik. Heinz & only 1 other dem (Pancrazi) voted for the bill on 3rd read.

Heinz is obfuscating. He did pander to the Republicans many times during 2011 & 2012 sessions.

]]> By: Tracy S. http://www.rumromanismrebellion.net/2012/08/20/keep-digging/comment-page-1/#comment-59346 Tracy S. Tue, 21 Aug 2012 05:39:09 +0000 http://www.rumromanismrebellion.net/?p=12416#comment-59346 Here's what I think, it CAN'T have been a coincidence that the MOMENT that Ron arrived in Congress the first bill up for vote after he was sworn in was one that offered a terrible choice between the issues of border security (which he supports) and the environment (which he also supports). Regardless of whether the bill would help border security or hurt the environment (it would do neither as it wasn't going anywhere in the Senate) this bill was custom designed to anger some constituents of Ron's and make it more difficult for him to be re-elected. The Republicans didn't really care which way he voted. They figured that if he voted for it he would be hit by his own side and Progressive folks who voted for him during the special might sit out the general (please don't that only let's them win). If he voted against it their custom-minted Republican candidate would batter him with his vote and cause any R's that crossed over to regret having done so. It was a trap and there was no way to both be a man and cast a vote -- which Ron did -- and not get beaten up for it. The politically expedient thing to have done would have been to have voted "Present" and then said that he wasn't ready to vote because he hadn't had a chance to read the bill thoroughly. He didn't do that, Ron did his best in a difficult situation. Regardless of the way Ron voted you have to give him credit for being a man and trying his best to do the right thing as he saw it to represent Southern AZ. Ultimately I hope voters will see through the hype and understand that here is a real and genuine person, not a perfect person, not exactly going to vote my way each time, but a genuine one who is working incredibly hard to do the right thing for us. Here’s what I think, it CAN’T have been a coincidence that the MOMENT that Ron arrived in Congress the first bill up for vote after he was sworn in was one that offered a terrible choice between the issues of border security (which he supports) and the environment (which he also supports). Regardless of whether the bill would help border security or hurt the environment (it would do neither as it wasn’t going anywhere in the Senate) this bill was custom designed to anger some constituents of Ron’s and make it more difficult for him to be re-elected. The Republicans didn’t really care which way he voted. They figured that if he voted for it he would be hit by his own side and Progressive folks who voted for him during the special might sit out the general (please don’t that only let’s them win). If he voted against it their custom-minted Republican candidate would batter him with his vote and cause any R’s that crossed over to regret having done so. It was a trap and there was no way to both be a man and cast a vote — which Ron did — and not get beaten up for it.

The politically expedient thing to have done would have been to have voted “Present” and then said that he wasn’t ready to vote because he hadn’t had a chance to read the bill thoroughly. He didn’t do that, Ron did his best in a difficult situation. Regardless of the way Ron voted you have to give him credit for being a man and trying his best to do the right thing as he saw it to represent Southern AZ. Ultimately I hope voters will see through the hype and understand that here is a real and genuine person, not a perfect person, not exactly going to vote my way each time, but a genuine one who is working incredibly hard to do the right thing for us.

]]> By: Joanne http://www.rumromanismrebellion.net/2012/08/20/keep-digging/comment-page-1/#comment-59343 Joanne Tue, 21 Aug 2012 00:21:13 +0000 http://www.rumromanismrebellion.net/?p=12416#comment-59343 Tedski - I think you have it wrong. Matt doesn't sound surprised about the attack. It sounds like he is explaining his reason for voting, which I like. Who wants to make a stop in Pinal Co when there are signs posted about the dangers of stopping? Not me. Anyways Tedski - maybe you should've waited for the AZ Illustrated to air before making judgements... I think most of us are waiting for it to air. Tedski – I think you have it wrong. Matt doesn’t sound surprised about the attack. It sounds like he is explaining his reason for voting, which I like. Who wants to make a stop in Pinal Co when there are signs posted about the dangers of stopping? Not me.

Anyways Tedski – maybe you should’ve waited for the AZ Illustrated to air before making judgements… I think most of us are waiting for it to air.

]]> By: Tedski http://www.rumromanismrebellion.net/2012/08/20/keep-digging/comment-page-1/#comment-59342 Tedski Tue, 21 Aug 2012 00:16:59 +0000 http://www.rumromanismrebellion.net/?p=12416#comment-59342 Georgia- There's bipartisan...then there is selling out. Georgia-

There’s bipartisan…then there is selling out.

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