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Tedski, I look to you for political news I don’t find elsewhere. Huerta I heard about on the news.
You’ve been lacking for news lately…
This White House award shows the tone deafness of the president and his apparent lack of awareness about the many un American and un patriotic activities this awardee has engaged in for many years.
Tedski lacks for news but the president lacks good judgement. One could think of about a dozen more deserving Latinas who might have done more for to build up their community than Ms Huerta.
Does Mr. Obama embrace all of the Ms Huerta’s separatist beliefs?
I found the broad range of Medal of Freedom awardees this year both interesting and inspiring. These men and women represented a gamut of career experiences, but all were models of long-term, excellent engagement and achievement in national life. It made me proud to see how varied and diverse American “exceptionalism” is. Congratulations to all the Medal of Freedom winners.
I am also very intertested why he pick Ms Huerta. All this would seem to do as add to his list of radicals that support him or he supports them.
I wonder what the Democratic Party would be saying if she had said “all Democrats hate Latinos”? This award wouldn’t be pandering to the Latino vote would it?
Gee, if I didn’t know better I’d think Messers Ash and Stephenson are setting out to prove the validity of Ms. Huerta’s comment about how Republicans feel about Latinos.
Oh, by the way …
Clearly there is no room in the GOP for overt racists:
http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/05/30/longtime-white-supremacist-to-serve-on-penn-county-gop-committee/
Unpatriotic? I guess the patriotic thing to do was to let underpaid workers get sprayed by pesticides.
Deleting my posts now… That’s rewarding… I know I’m doing good work here!
Similar comments were made by similar right wing commentators, when Dr. King won the Nobel Peace Prize… It figures.
So called liberals / progressives sure seem to always have race on the brain.
Your own guilt shows through every time you write your missives diverting attention from your own prejudices.
To compare this vicious little agitator to a uniter like Dr. King is pathetic.When future students look back at mid 20th century history Dr. King will stand alongside Lincoln as America’s greatest defenders of liberty and justice. Despite this mis guided award Ms Huerta will be forgotten.
And the same thing applies to the reference to Chavez. Haven’t we all come some way in the past 40 + years? Many responsible Democrats and Republicans both have made American workers the safest in the world. The American worker is still the foundation of our great economy . Don’t flatter yourselves thinking all of the advances for American workers came from the democrat party. It is simply not true.
I know it just kills you all who live in your bubbles but both Dr King and Chavez were REPUBLICANS.
Both of these great men understood that the only way to advance the cause of opportunity and equality was to raise up their followers to succeed and not turn them into the victims that Ms Huerta is guilty of. Ms Huerta is a divider. The president is a divider. That is the only explanation I can imagine for her award at the White House which has become a lesser place under this presidency.
To the extent that King and Chavez were Republicans, they were the sort who supported Robert Kennedy. I don’t think they would be on board with Jesse Kelley or Jan Brewer today.
Bruce is still stuck in a long ago time — the first half of the 20th century — when the world was a far different place.
Bruce, nice try at deflection again.
Today’s Republicans are a far cry from the Republicans of old. Barry Goldwater would be considered a wild-eyed liberal today.
Bruce, Chavez and King were Republicans when the elephants were the party of Lincoln and Ike not the party of voter suppression and Russel Pearce.
Sorry none of you have been successful in making the argument that Ms Huerta is NOT a divider and a dangerous agitator who in any meaningful way stands up in comparison to giants like Chavez and Dr King. Her award is as valid as the Nobel Prize for Obama ( what’s he done to preserve peace since — besides send out the drones ? )
And by the way #15… the real voter suppression comes from the way you guys insist on re districting which foists your so called “progressive” candidates in minority districts where no one is able to compete against them and hardly anyone shows up to vote for the dems because the voters all know their elected people don’t give a rip if they ever do anything constructive for their constituents.
Lastly if Americans need to show a valid ID to cash a check or get onto a plane or train why is it you believe that showing a picture ID to register to vote or to actually vote is voter suppression for crying out loud? I suppose employing the New Black Panthers wielding clubs outside the polls in PA is warm , safe and inviting?
Otra ves con Bruce y sus tonterias. Bruce is the only divider here his open disdain for powerful Chicanas is matched only by his dislike for all Democratic ideals. I guess that’s OK with me because most thinking people can see where he is headed with his hateful comments.
Dolores Huerta has defended workers her whole life. This puts her in direct conflict with Bruce and his rather selfish view of American life.
Que Viva Dolores Huerta!
Que sigue nuestra lucha!
Que viva mi Raza!
Bajo con Bruce y sus tonterias!
Hasta la victoria!
Felicidades a Dolores y Bobby D. Gracias por todo su trabajo!
Great argument genius!
Bruce is stupid. Tacos for Two is right.
All is OK with the world because Dolores will fight for us.
Don’t you get it Taco ? It’s up to you and I to make our own opportunities. It’s up to us to fight for ourselves. None of us need anyone else to fight for us and make opportunities for all of us. We are all capable of doing that for ourselves. Or at least if we are living our lives as free men and women that is what is supposed to happen.
Surely we can agree on that can’t we?
As you suggested in your previious post leadership does matter.
“You can’t scare me,
I’m sticking to the union!”
Woody G.
Bruce, Simple answer on voter ID- voting is a right, driving and all business transactions are privileges. Second AZ has an ID approach acceptable to the voting rights act since it allows acceptable alternatives go a photo ID. This alternative is often helpful for the old, the poor, and some who reside on native nation reservations.
As for majority minority districts in much of the country the p
Sorry mistakenly hit enter.
In much of the country, the Republican party
advocates for majority minority districts since statistically minorities tend to vote for democrats. By concentrating minority voters in a single district the other districts become more Republican.
Personally I don’t like this interpretation of the voting rights act but forts and the US Attorney
continued- the courts and DOJ have both decided that minority majority districts are in the best interest of protecting minority rights. That judgment seems unlikely to change anytime soon.
One final thing Bruce- you say ” It’s up to you and I to make our own opportunities. ”
Sounds like you sprung as a man in full from the forehead of Zeus. No teachers made a difference in your life, no mentors, no first man/woman who hired you. If that is indeed the case I feel sorry for you and the lonely life you have lead, the fellowship of others who care and fight for you is a wonderful gift of life from the God in heaven.
Tom–
First, as to voter ID . You are correct it is a right and that is the precisely the reason that elections not be abused by those ineligible to vote or those acting as an illegal imposter for others. As it is almost anyone can register to vote with few binding requirements . And with PEVL elections cheating has become even easier. For what reason would anyone want to make it any easier for anyone to steal an election? Either side? Why should we make it easier to do so if the intent is not lawful?
And since just about anyone who has a pulse can get proof of valid residency why do some continue to resist providing a valid ID when they vote ? My point is if one travels, cashes a check , registers for a hotel room , etc they must have an ID so why not be required to show one when they vote so the poll worker knows all votes are valid?
As for a mentor , teacher or whatever why do Latinos or African Americans need someone like Dolores Huerta to show them the way out of poverty to opportunity . Did German,Chinese,Vietnamese,Korean,Japanese, Irish,Jewish,Italian immigrants need someone like Huerta ( or for that matter Jesse Jackson, Reverend Sharpton ) to lead them from poverty to opportunity? And why is it that all of those immigrants have not become hyphenated Americans or trapped in their impoverished communities. No Tom –most all Americans have struggled for the good life . Not everyone makes it but I certainly would not depend on someone the likes of a divider such as Dolores Huerta to get me there.
Bruce if you have evidence of anyone committing a felony and trying to illegally vote please report to the appropriate authorities. Voter fraud is exceedingly rare. You are more likely to be struck by lightning. The fact that it is a felony seems deterent enough.
Bruce you apparently think Americans of African and Latino descent are different from other Americans. As for myself I find them to be made in the image of God like all Americans and equally abled to succeed on their own. Both groups have in the past been subject to government backed institutional discrimination. Such actions typically take many generations to overcome, how to accomplish that change is worthy of serious debate but not worth assuming our fellow citizens are somehow different.
Bruce,
An addendum on your point about making access to the ballot more narrow. I guess I feel about efforts to make accessing the right to vote more difficult are similar to those who bristle at efforts to make accessing one’s second amendment rights more difficult. I think access to the ballot should be made as easy as practical while avoiding fraud. Current data on fraud indicates that few if any changes are needed since fraud is all but non-existent and as of yet I have not seen evidence that fraud has actually swayed an election since at least 1960 and even that report is questionable.
The Metal of Freedom should have gone to Gabby Mercer.
TOM–QUITE TO THE CONTRARY.
I BELIEVE EVERY AMERICAN IS EQUALLY ABLE TO DO SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS OBTAIN A VALID FORM OF PHOTO ID.
WHY DO YOU KEEP MAKING EXCUSES FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT?
I make no excuse for those who do not. I simply do not believe a photo ID is necessary to minimize voting fraud as fraud does not appear to be significant by any measure at this time.
You have yet to produce any evidence to the contrary. If you are going to restrict peoples rights then you need to meet a high burden of proof to do so.
Since your proof is non-existent I would say you have not met the bar.
“Did German, Chinese, Vietnamese, Korean, Japanese, Irish, Jewish, Italian immigrants need someone like Huerta (or for that matter Jesse Jackson, Reverend Sharpton) to lead them from poverty to opportunity?”
Yes, yes they did. Settlement houses (Hull House being the most famous example) to the Chinese Consolidated Benevolent Association and dozens of other societies that exist to help recent immigrants newly arrived in the US have been around for over a hundred years.
It is as if you have no idea about your own country’s history Mr. Ash. Or the continuing efforts of minority groups to assist their own members in achieving the American Dream.
And now back to seeing if the felonious James O’Keefe has managed to commit voter fraud yet so he can room with former Indiana Secretary of State Charlie White.
Spent much time on the Navajo Nation have ya Bruce? Where half of the male population are Veterans; but a “Certificate of Blood”(a green piece of paper) is all that was/is required for a Navajo to identify him or her self. Photo ID’s are not common place. You best venture out of your cultural bubble my friend.
Dear AppleBlossom–Let me tell you a little something about our family’s background.
My family came from the lower east side of NY after arriving in America penny less.They lived in many places there because they never seemed to be able to pay the rent. My DAD stood in the relief line to get food for his family after his father was murdered . He attended the University Settlement House @ 184 Eldridge Street.
Now at close to the end of his life when I inquired what the best thing he ever did in his life it was ” to escape from the ghetto” which I can assure you he did very much on his own after quitting high school as a sophomore and leaving his poverty plagued under educated single mother’s apartment and all of his loser friends behind to start a new life first in the US Army and later moving to Tucson.
Hate to burst your bubble ‘Bloss but there are lots of folks who have had a pretty interesting life and made a decent place for themselves in the world .
I can also assure you that none of us have ever had a difficult time showing our ID to vote against every democrat we could over the past 40 years or so. Maybe someday when you grow up you will also.
The Ash family never needed anyone like Dolores Huerta or a leech like Jesse Jackson to lead us out of poverty. We did it on our own.
As for the Navajo Nation Matt……
PULEASSSSE !! WHen one describes the worst run and most corrupt elections in America you only need to look at a Navajo election to see the worst kind of election cheating as coercive elections anywhere in America and I know that from first hand experience.
Bruce Ash: None of your self-righteous bleating changes the fact that YOUR tent is big enough to welcome racists, but not people who work on behalf of the poor, like Ms. Huerta: http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/05/30/longtime-white-supremacist-to-serve-on-penn-county-gop-committee/
So what you are saying is that because your father used government resources to improve his life, Delores Huerta should not be honored for not using government resources to improve other people’s lives?
Kind of contradictory there do you not think?
If Bruce discusses issue’s that tend to show the Democratic Party in a bad light he is a racist. When Ms. Huerta makes racist comments about Republicans she is a hero. Such is life and politics
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Walt S: Huerta said that “Republicans hate Latinos.”
Republicans pass legislation that opens the door to racial profiling. Republicans elect avowed racists to party leadership positions. Republicans are working hard to make it hard for Latinos to obtain their basic rights, even when they are citizens.
To paraphrase Harry S Truman, Dolores Huerta didn’t get Republicans hell. She told the truth, and Republicans thought it was hell.
Bruce you received a heavily subsidized education at the University of Arizona. You did not make it on your own. You had significant financial assistance from the tax payers of Arizona. This subsidy is something the current generation does not benefit from.
Great sins ‘Blossom and Dr Tom.
Brilliant deflection like a ping pong ball.
The truth is we have probably been subsidizing you rather than the way to like to describe life.
I am one of those makers. You would qualify as a taker.
make that SPINS not sins
U r hereby absolved of your sins however
Again, Mr. Ash, your family received government assistance to escape poverty and somehow that is okay.
Ms Huerta helped people not receive government assistance to escape poverty and somehow this is bad.
As I said, this is contradictory for your political leanings. You should be in favor of government spending to help others and people like Ms Huerta should be against it.
But you are not. And we all know why.
Bruce what exactly is it that you “make”. I make new knowledge and produce strong technical minds that go out and solve the world’s problems.
So Bruce, Navajo Veterans should not be allowed to vote in our state and federal elections who are registered and active voters? Keep digging your hole you’re on a roll.
TTFA Fools
Brilliant point Bruce!
I am trying to remember the name of the jackass who once compared the Democrats on the Tucson City Council to Palestinian terrorists and later stereotyped Tucson voters as lazy potheads. I sure hope that guy doesn’t log on here and complain about Dolores Huerta. It would make him look like a hypocrite and a fool.