Tuesday, June 30th, 2009...8:15 pm
Live Blogging the Destruction of Arizona as We Know It
12:30 Your intrepid blogger, signing off.
12:29 It looks like they are just passing a series of non-budget bills. It’s not like the clock is ticking anymore, I guess.
12:28 Verschoor, jacketless and open colared, is leaning back in his chair Blackberrying.
12:27 COW report adopted. Now they are resolving into COW again. Geez.
12:24 I may blow out of here soon. No way I can stay till the end of this. I like what the senate dems are doing here though.
12:23 T + 23
12:22 Linda Lopez uses her explanation of her vote to talk about Jim McNulty.
12:20 Hale brings up the TPT revenue issue again. Hale compares the situation to colonialism. Not far from the truth, really.
12:17 Another amendment from Hale, complete with a roll call vote.
12:15 Point of information, President Burns, what time is it?
12:14 I’m noticing that the “vote explanations” are wordier than they need to be. We saw that in the case of Burton-Cahill’s speech it irritates some of the Republicans, but they are allowed to talk as long as they want. Folks are leaving the gallery.
12:12 Yet another party line vote on an amendment by Hale, this one to restore funding to the Comission on Indian Affairs.
12:11 There is talking on the floor.
12:09 Republican member tries to stop Burton-Cahill’s speech with a point of order. President rules it out of order.
12:08 Burton-Cahill acknowledges that it is after midnight and that legislators are passing poor policy.
12:06 Several democratic house members are on the floor.
12:03 The clock has been turned off. The only acknowledgement that we are past the deadline comes when Landrum-Taylor introduces her amendment to get more money for schools by saying “Good Morning.”
12:00 BANG!
11:59 I just noticed that there is no clock in the chamber to reset. At least none I can see. Patterson is on the floor talking to Lopez.
11:58 Iron Maiden time: two minutes to midnight.
11:56 Four minutes. Aboud calls for another roll call vote, this time on additional money for DES targeted at the elderly and disabled.
11:55 Five minutes. House in recess.
11:53 Rios amendment to restore some funding to DES.
11:51 Aboud amendment to restore nutrition programs for the elderly. Once again, getting individual republicans on record.
11:50 Ten minutes.
11:49 These are the same amendments from before.
11:48 Lopes amendment, another roll call.
11:47 Landrum-Taylor introduces another amendment on KidsCare, this time with a roll call vote to get these guys on the record voting against it.
11:46 Yes he is, and it violates Senate rules.
11:45 Is Huppenthal on a cellphone?
11:43 Roll call on Landrum-Taylor amendment. This will fail, but gets individual Republicans on record.
11:42 Garcia has amendment about equalization tax. Jack Harper makes snide comment about Garcia having more face time with the governor than he does. Do we expect anything less?
11:41 Will these guys have to resort to what Pete Rios did back in the early 1990’s? Reset the clock?
11:40 Twenty minutes.
11:38 Burns takes presiding chair. Applause. Yeah, I explained that one.
11:37 Report from house says that Bradley has a stemwinder.
11:36 Lopez amenmendment for stable teacher contracts. Jackass a couple of rows behind me says “shutup.”
11:36 Burton-Cahill amendment to offer RIFed teachers first opportunity for rehire.
11:35 Report from the house: Rep. McComish is asleep.
11:34 Division, standing vote, fails.
11:33 Rios’s amendment takes out language to limit political activities by teachers. She points out that it is punitive.
11:32 Division and standing vote. Still fails.
11:31 Lopez points out that support for supplies in the flat tax bill is irrelevant since the flat tax is no longer on the calendar.
11:30 Rios has amendment for “soft capital” for schools, which would cover supplies. I have a vague idea how this vote will go.
11:28 Hale amendment to provide aid to schools on reservations and military bases, which have a negligible tax base. Failed. Of course.
11:25 Burton-Cahill “Someone called this a political Katrina, it is a public policy Katrina.”
11:24 Burns claims not to be “aware” of park closings. I was, what’s up with him?
11:23 Meg Burton-Cahill asks a question of Burns about park closings, which was already happening this afternoon.
11:22 John Huppenthal is sporting some sort of “oh so casual” look. Jeans (George Will would throw a fit) a suit coat and, I think, a polo shirt.
11:20 Linda Gray moves adpotion. First Republican I’ve seen speak ‘cept for the presiding officer.
11:19 Meg Burton-Cahill tries to remove any reference to impact fees. Also, Aboud tried to mandate appointments of members from both parties to a gubernatorial commission. Once again, no dice.
11:18 Forty two minutes.
11:16 Kenny Jacobs is keeping up with the House. According to him, quoth Clovis Campbell: “Tonight I am embarrassed to be a member of this legislature.”
11:14 In the flurry of amendments, Republican members have been silent except for voting no.
11:13 Hale points out that under the current system, nations and tribes need specific appropriations for projects rather than being able to make those decisions locally.
11:12 Hale introduces bill allowing more tax money generated on reservations to be spent on reservations.
11:11 Garcia and Aboud go after the changes in property taxes.
11:10 Aboud rises in support. Since the idea makes sense, it fails.
11:08 Garcia introduces amendment to expand sales tax revenue to services that aren’t currently taxed while at the same time reducing the sales tax rate. The Goldwater Institute was intrigued by this idea earlier this year.
11:07 These amendments failed, but the Republicans as a group are on record opposing things like KidsCare. It’s like they are writing hit pieces for the Democrats to use next year.
11:06 Aboud had another amendment, and Aguirre too…both failed. Now it’s Lopez’s turn.
11:03 Paula Aboud introduces amendment regarding same sex partner benefits. Fails too.
11:02 Amenment fails, of course. Gotta give those kids a lesson in freedom by denying them health care.
11:01 Leah Landrum-Taylor introduces an amendment to restore funding to KidsCare. Aboud rises in support.
10:59 Moved over to the Senate. Gallery isn’t as thick with folks. Rebecca Rios is introducing a series of amendments in a last ditch effort to keep the worst cuts from happening. It is a nice effort, but it ain’t working.
10:51 Sinema points out that the bill could privatize death row. Yep. You smell that? That’s freedom.
10:47 It’s been pointed out to me that we are in for a series of party line votes over here in the house, but that the senate is back in session. The budget bills have apparently passed the house and only need senate action. We may head over there in a bit.
10:46 Farley points out that this trailer includes the lease-purchase agreement for prisons. Objects because there is no guarantee that we will make the money that is promised by the bill’s proponents. He also objects to mortgaging our prisons, which we own free and clear now.
10:43 Chabon notes that we will be going to special session, and calls for more involvement from both parties.
10:41 Chabon is arguing that the package should not be sent without the sales tax. He is blaming “gridlock” that is within the Repubican caucus.
10:40 One hour and twenty minutes.
10:38 Farley objects to bill that contains moratorium on impact fees and building codes.
10:34 Need to back up…feed bill passed 33-26-1. NV- Olivia Cajero-Bedford, party line otherwise ‘cept for Biggs and Burges voting no with the Democats.
10:33 Chad Campbell speaks.
10:26 Note for novices: the bill is actually “read” by a reading clerk but in a way that calls to mind the Dick Tracy villain Mumbles on amphetamines.
10:25 Gavel…third read.
10:24 “Sanctuary Cities” bill is locked up in the senate too, but it is unlikely that that’s a situation that Russell Pearce will allow to last for long.
10:21 Update on something I wrote earlier: the ADEQ continuation has apparently moved out of rules in the senate, but still needs to go to a final vote. If they sine die without any action on it, sayonara. Senators are in a mood to end this thing as quickly as possible.
10:18 New speaker pro temporae: Steve Yarbrough. Usual applause when they switch speaker pro-tems, like they are putting in a new left back for fresh legs or something.
10:17 Further Analysis: Farley seems to be the loud guy.
10:14 Discussion between Farley and Chabin regarding property taxes. By the way, Roger, Charleston includes on ex-Tucson Amigo, Dusty Huddock.
10:12 I just got a text from someone pointing out that the Dems should have pointed out the troubles with these amendments when they were COWed. I don’t know how they could have, since there was little time for discussion and they would probably prefer to let the Republicans live with their mistakes.
10:10 Farley points out what I said, that with the bills coming so fast and furious, errors like the one that just had to be fixed are inevitable.
10:08 Roger informs me that the Revs went down to to the Harrisburg City Islanders in the Open Cup tonight. Well, Harrisburg is the top team in USL-2. Ugh.
10:07 By the way, for the math challenged among you: 1 hour and 53 minutes to pass something.
10:05 Gavel. There was a drafting error in one of the amendments. This is what happens when you hurry.
9:59 While we are still waiting, more definitions: COW is committee of the whole, the entire body meets as a committee to do the final amendments to a bill and for, theoretically, discussion and deliberation. Didn’t seem to work that way tonight.
9:57 Gallery is becoming more boisterous.
9:51 Definition time: Kenny Jacobs referenced a “BrB” in the comments. That’s a Budget Reconcilliation Bill, a bill that clairifies and specifies spending in the main “feed” bill. The feed bill, you may remember, was the one that had to be refered to the senate education committee after it died in appropriations.
9:48 I have been informed that they are waiting for the bills to be engrossed for third read. Basically, making sure that the amendment language is in the bills.
9:38 Speaker Pro-tem said something I don’t get…I think he was announcing a further delay but wants everyone to stay seated.
9:37 More thumb twiddling.
9:34 Speaker pro-temporae calls the body to order.
9:28 Apparently, the delay is due to the house budget being in conflict with the senate budget. No time for a conference committee. They will have to amend what they have passed to make this work, if they can agree on that. Current thinking: June 4th submitted to governor, and she line item vetoes a big chunk of it and vetoes the “trailers,” including those that would allow us to get stimulus money. Look forward to a special session.
9:26 About twenty minutes ago, the governor started negotiating with the Democrats.
9:22 Yeah, I don’t know what is going on right now either. Could be a delay while they are whipping members for a vote on the budget. I don’t see anyone being called into the speaker’s office, though.
9:18 Kyrsten Sinema is convening a war council on the floor with about eight Democratic members. Some Republicans are gathered near the podium.
9:14 Too quiet.
9:13 Things on the floor are quiet.
9:10 One guy likes saying “Nay” excedingly loud. I’m sitting with Donna Gratehouse and Caitlin Jensen. Donna thinks it’s Schapira. I don’t think so.
9:09 The gallery is full, a mix of blackberry addicted lobbyists and teachers with buttons and t-shirts.
9:08 Three minutes and two more bills. Welcome to deliberative democracy.
9:04 They are now debating an another amendment to the same bill that is nearly identical to Schapira’s amendment, the difference is that this one was authored by a Republican. Schapira objects. He points out that it doesn’t matter what the amendment is, but who writes it. Of course, the amendment now passes with a different author. It is blatantly obvious what this is all about to these people.
9:03 Code Pink is here. This is now a circus.
9:02 Never mind, motion fails.
9:01 Wow…division. Schapira may pass his amendment. Thank heaven for small victories.
9:00 Colloquy between Schapira and Daniel Patterson, giving Schapira the chance to explain that the language that Crandall objects to was written in consultation with Crandall.
8:59 Rich Crandall complains that Schapira’s language is too vague and may mandate consultation with school janitors.
8:58 David Schapira has an amendment to HB2648, and actually explains it!
8:56 Lobbyist in front of my is surprised that members aren’t explaining their votes. Welcome to Sine Die. It is Sine Die, ennit?
8:55 HB2647. Steve is right…these things are coming too quick to be seriously discussed.
8:54 House is COWing HB2646. Steve Farley is objecting because the bills are coming too quickly.
8:48 Past enemy lines in the Republican caucus room. They are currently in recess. The current plan is to send the budget to the governor, but without the sales tax. The house is currently in “committee of the whole.” Heading over there.
8:19 More milling around on the floor. The bells have sounded but the house is still in recess. I plan to go up to the gallery in a few minutes. I want to hold off to make sure my battery is charged.
8:13 On the way up, I was saddened to hear news of the death of James McNulty. I will write about him and what he meant to me later when I can take time to write something that does his life justice.
I’m hanging out in Steve Farley’s office. He just went to the floor because he’s a bit uncomfortable with who is milling around down there. He expects the leaders to send up the budget they’ve got without the sales tax. This budget is, as we know, not balanced.
62 Comments
June 30th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
I’m at a meeting at the MCDP but is it worth coming down there when we’re done?
June 30th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
Please keep the updates coming…
June 30th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
Someone should have beer in their office fridge. That should be an incentive.
June 30th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
Simon,
Maybe that’s the ticket! Serve all the Republicans Schnapps, then take up the budget vote again.
June 30th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
IF they end up passing all the budget bills and send them to the Governor without the sales tax bill, she does have one interesting option (besides vetoing the whole thing and starting over.)
She might sign most of the budget bills but veto the bill containing the revocation of the equalization tax (which part of her five point plan was to slow that down anyway) and also veto the flat tax bill.
In other words she might in essence consider spending as one side of the budget (and go along with that) and taxes as the other side (and not go along with any of that.)
I would be unhappy if she did that because I dislike the spending bills and the cuts they make, but it is an interesting possibility to contemplate.
June 30th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
“9:08 Three minutes and two more bills. Welcome to deliberative democracy.”
No, welcome to Alt-Fuels 2.0.
June 30th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
Let us know if they shut off any mics tonight…like Harper did with Aboud last year.
What a gent!
June 30th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
Kick ass Sinema!!!!!
June 30th, 2009 at 9:28 pm
@ 9:30pm, getting ready for CoW # 2. “All the bills without any of the debate.” rip Billy Mays
June 30th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
Pardon my language, but I can’t say this any more plainly…if they fuck up the stimulus money…!!!!!!
June 30th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
Hell? Say hello to handbasket.
June 30th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
DM3 sez Gov still promises to veto any budget w/o sales tax referral. Where is he?
June 30th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
why is she talking to the dems then?
June 30th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
My house source sez Gov NOT working w/ Dems. Sez Flat tax is DOA. Most BrBs are history.
June 30th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
2hrs and 10 min to go and they are “pondering” things? I just loooove the way they are juggling with my future and my paycheck!
June 30th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
AZGuardian is reporting Senate Dems walked away from a negotiating session w/ Brewer just after 9pm because House was passing budget bills. Sen. minority leader Garcia (d-27) “We had about a five or 10 minute discussion, but we decided to leave because the House is COWing the bills. Why try to negotiate anything when the House is passing the budget bills?”
June 30th, 2009 at 9:56 pm
Ok…give me some help here…what is COWing? Made me think of tipping of cows…but I am sure that is not it….right?
June 30th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
Thanks Ted, I was perplexed by the “ing” part, I get it now.
June 30th, 2009 at 10:04 pm
By the way, your Revs and my Goats were beaten tonight in the US Open cup. At least my Goats went down to the Charleston Battery (my fav. USL team).
June 30th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
The state will be posting info for state employees here:
http://www.azdoa.gov/
June 30th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
Kenny,
Look at that acronym and what you just said…
Arizona DOA!
June 30th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
hehehehehehe, I typed DOA, hehehehehehehehe
June 30th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
I sat next to Farley on the floor and he can be quite loud but Ableser was usually the loudest and Farley had the best jokes.
June 30th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
I can add to the earlier AZ Guardian story: Gov. Brewer spoke with the elected leadership of BOTH chambers for the Democrats. Apparently, the opportunity for dialogue was “limited.”
June 30th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
Sinema is reporting Gov. will “line item” veto the feed bill…and now 4 the definitions, take it away Tedski!
June 30th, 2009 at 10:40 pm
More Sinema via FaceBook:
“This bill is HORRIBLE. 2 year freeze on impact fees, 2 year moratorium on building codes, and 2 year freeze on construction sales tax rates. Great deal for industry – bad deal for localities and citizens.”
I do not know which bill # this references.
June 30th, 2009 at 10:43 pm
Per AZ Guardian:
House Dems say it was Brewer, not Dems, who broke off the late-night budget meeting. This much is certain: No deal. http://www.arizonaguardian.com
June 30th, 2009 at 10:50 pm
AZ Senate is in Committee of the Whole
June 30th, 2009 at 10:51 pm
Sen Aboud is moving amendments to bills. Her mic is still on. Sen Harper is looking for wire cutters. Allegedly.
June 30th, 2009 at 10:57 pm
You can watch the proceedings live at
http://azleg.granicus.com/Mediaplayer.php?publish_id=13
June 30th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
I will stick w/ the House now since Ted is moving over to the Senate. Just to catch up, the AZ Dems in the Senate are moving amendments, everything appears to be going down on party line votes although they are voice votes.
June 30th, 2009 at 11:02 pm
Schapira is pointing out the future litigation facing AZ since House R’s choose to negate voter intent from previous ballot initiative.
June 30th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
Rep. Clovis Campbell lays down the law: “tonight I am embarrassed to be a member of this legislature.”
June 30th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
Schapira and Sinema have pointed out Kavanagh, Biggs, broke their word on Approps Committee amendments.
I watched that hearing. It’s on the record. The Approps Comm. leadership lied (my words).
June 30th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
Rep. Deschene brings the “long view” of history. Speaks of the definition of leadership and how that hasn’t been met tonight.
“We can’t even protect our young. With that I don’t see a community.”
June 30th, 2009 at 11:22 pm
Alot of talk about education, where was Vic Williams?
June 30th, 2009 at 11:29 pm
Rep. Ableser recently converted to LDS. He is now speaking from the perspective of his faith. “How we treat the least among us…”
June 30th, 2009 at 11:31 pm
Per an observer at the House: Rep. McComish, majority leader, is asleep.
June 30th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
Bradley was on message telling the leg that they will ‘Rue the day’…
June 30th, 2009 at 11:38 pm
Rep. Bradley, “you are going to rue this day.”
Rep. Bradley makes note of US. Rep McNulty’s passing, a former AZ State Senator.
June 30th, 2009 at 11:40 pm
Rep. McCommish has ended his beauty sleep, he is now awake. He wants to see the the big hand meet the little hand? Allegedly.
June 30th, 2009 at 11:41 pm
Did House dems miss a chance to get Republicans on the record during the earlier CoW? Don’t know, just asking, no big whoop.
June 30th, 2009 at 11:46 pm
Rep. Heinz lists the persons and their experiences that were locked out of the budget process by the Republicans.
“Are we really representing the people of Arizona by this process? I say no!”
June 30th, 2009 at 11:50 pm
The House stands in recess pending the sound of the gavel. Smok’em if ya got’em, cause we just got burned but bad.
June 30th, 2009 at 11:52 pm
Hey peeps! Back in the ‘Tuke and fired up my laptop after having to go home and feed the cat and change the litter. What did I miss?
June 30th, 2009 at 11:55 pm
Per Sinema via Twitter:
“11:48 pm and the House finished the budget. Now waiting on the Senate, who are turning off the clock to pretend it’s not July 1.”
June 30th, 2009 at 11:56 pm
So what does that mean if the house is in recess???
July 1st, 2009 at 12:00 am
They have completed the business before them but need to remain to handle new business pending outcomes from the Senate.
July 1st, 2009 at 12:11 am
The House Dems Caucus has concluded. I never saw if the House R’s met in Caucus.
Question: Teddy, do you really want to take your act to this circus?
July 1st, 2009 at 12:17 am
What “new business pending outcomes from the Senate”?
July 1st, 2009 at 12:19 am
The senate may pass some bills that would need the House to vote/debate on.
July 1st, 2009 at 12:21 am
via FaceBook from my friend Jason Cianciotto: “wants everyone who knows, loves and supports Wingspan to understand that every minute of state government shutdown is a minute that delays state grant funding that helps LGBT victims of violence and homeless youth. This is it folks – it’s happening right here and right now.”
Jason is the Executive Director of Wingspan, Tucson’s LGBT community center. Oh, and happy pride!
July 1st, 2009 at 12:24 am
Pride in Jason and Wingspan. Pride about 1700 W. Washington. No way!
July 1st, 2009 at 12:27 am
Kenny–
But this “new business” would be more budget bills? or guns in bars type bills?
July 1st, 2009 at 12:28 am
TED–
Yes–roll call those votes!
July 1st, 2009 at 12:28 am
Bless your heart, Ted. Seriously, many thanks to you for driving all the way out to this godforsaken oversized subdivision to keep everyone updated. Drive safe and try to get some shuteye for the kids and the wash-cleaning tomorrow.
July 1st, 2009 at 12:33 am
Wow, thanks for the updates. I went from your blog to the live session. Very informative!!!
July 1st, 2009 at 12:49 am
ccburro, the guns in bars stuff was finished days ago.
July 1st, 2009 at 12:50 am
So I go to Tucson for the evening, and Ted comes to Phoenix… and in the mean time AZ gets destroyed.
That’s it. I am never going to visit North Nogales Tech again.
July 1st, 2009 at 12:50 am
What a load of shit!
RRRRRRRR!
July 1st, 2009 at 12:51 am
I will stay on twitter @kennyjacobs and facebook: http://www.facebook.com/inbox/?drop&ref=mb#/kenny.jacobs?ref=name
July 1st, 2009 at 10:07 am
BTW…thanks for the live reporting on the debate. I was thrilled to read it!