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I Know Military Tactics, I Cleaned Swimming Pools For Years

There was a ridiculous meeting of the Homeland Security committee on Monday, which the Star editorialized on yesterday.  I heard from a few legislators about the happenings there.

The hearing dealt with the incident that occurred near Sasabe on January 3rd, where four members of the Tennessee National Guard encountered some armed men, and they pulled back to their observation post.  They Guard is under orders not to engage, only to observe.

Maj. Gen. David RataczakThe committee questioned Arizona Army National Guard Adjutant General Maj. Gen. David Rataczak in a packed hearing room. Instead of trying to find out what happened, Republican members used it as a way to blame the governor for everything and accuse the Democrats of hating soldiers.

Rataczak was professional, but his frustration with the grandstanding committeemembers, whose inquiries became reduntant as each one wanted their time on one of the copious television cameras in the room, comes through even in this dry bit quoted by the Star:

(Rep. Jerry) Weiers: At what point can your soldiers defend themselves? Does somebody have to wait for a bullet to go off before somebody can defend themselves?

Rataczak: Had that undocumented pointed that weapon at our soldier, he (the entrant) would not have survived. We train them and we trust them to do the right thing, and he did the right thing. Our soldier kept from escalating that event.

At one point, Weiers implied that these soldiers violated the First General Order. Rataczak assured him that he did not believe they had. The three General Orders are drilled into a young soldier’s head when they are in training, and can often be recited by ex-Army folks for years after their separation the way even a lapsed Catholic can recite the Nicene Creed. The First General Order says:

I will guard everything within the limits of my post and quit my post only when properly relieved.

By implying that these soldiers violated this order, Weiers is accusing them of cowardice. And these guys have the nerve to say the Democrats dishonor the troops? This unit, by the way, has previously served in Iraq.

The main issue before these committee was about the rules of engagement for the guardsmen. They are under the mistaken impression that Janet Napolitano wrote them in her office one morning while enjoying her latte (she’s a Democrat, so she only drinks latte, right?). These rules were composed in a pretty complicated consultive process, and had to be signed on to by the administration, the defense department and JAGs from the Guard units that were activated and also reviewed by JAGs from all the remaining National Guards in the United States. Given this, it looks Napolitano’s involvement in writing these was rather minimal. But hey, why worry about the facts when you score cheap political points?

Rep. Warde NicholsWell, the Republicans are taking the bull by the horns and today Warde Nichols will unveil his own rules of engagement. He believes that the State Legislature can override the Governor on this matter. This claim is, at best, dubious. Nichols, by the way, claims no military experience either on his legislative biography or on the biography posted at Project Vote Smart (where they specifically ask about such things). His previous experience is running a pool cleaning buisiness in Gilbert. But, he feels like he knows enough after grandstanding at a single hearing. Can this guy even find Sasabe on a map?

What amazes me here is that Republicans who don’t feel that Congress, which has actual constitutional authority for oversight in such matters, should say anything about the Iraq War are saying that State Legislators, whose authority over the National Guard is limited at best, should be able to micro-manage military activities in the state and override the orders of their chain of command.

7 Comments

  1. Semantics R’ Us wrote:

    FYI: there are 12 general orders. Regardless, good dis on the Rs.

    Thursday, February 1, 2007 at 8:31 am | Permalink
  2. Show me the money wrote:

    I’m interested to see how Warde will fund his grand schemes as the current FEDERAL border mission has cost over $1.2 billion. Does Arizona have that much surplus in the general fund? Sorry, Warde, it doesn’t.

    Thursday, February 1, 2007 at 9:15 am | Permalink
  3. x4mr wrote:

    Great post, as usual, and congratulations on your “new digs” and congratulations (I suppose) for being mentioned in “The Skinny” this week.

    Somehow, I don’t think I will ever make “The Skinny” and if I do, it will probably be bad.

    One remark on the new site: Suggest you put a little padding around your images. The text is slamming directly against them. Still readable, but not, in the opinions of this RRR fan, up to Tedski standards.

    Thursday, February 1, 2007 at 9:42 am | Permalink
  4. tedski wrote:

    Semantics-

    The Army has three general orders, which can be found at the Army Basic Training page (www.armybasic.org). The Air Force has a similar list.

    The Navy and Marines have eleven general orders.

    Ted.

    Thursday, February 1, 2007 at 10:05 am | Permalink
  5. SonoranSam wrote:

    Tedski won’t mention it, but his brother was on the committee, and as an ex- vet (Imagine a Private Prezelski?????) he made it clear that the military shouldn’t be second-guessed by legislators – or ex-pool cleaners, for that matter.

    Tom Prezelski did Tucson Proud.

    Thursday, February 1, 2007 at 1:11 pm | Permalink
  6. You’d think that after Hettmansperger almost winning in that district that Nichols wouldn’t try to make a grand spectacular jackass out of himself.

    But I guess that winning by a couple hundred votes (or so) qualifies as a man date for radical conservative policies.

    Thursday, February 1, 2007 at 7:17 pm | Permalink
  7. Franny wrote:

    Seems to me that the Republican’s uproar over not confronting armed men, who were not aiming their firearms at the service men, goes against the common Republican indignation over gun control laws. I don’t know if Weiers has ever expressed such indignation, however. If Randy “Guns in Bars” Graf was still gracing our legislature and was publically up in arms (no pun intended) over this, I’m sure everyone’s BS detector would have gone off. But then again, I’m sure the beloved Second Amendment may not seem necessary for non-Americans.

    Sunday, February 4, 2007 at 10:07 pm | Permalink

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