Friday, October 27th, 2006...6:27 pm
More Assinine Humor From Our Republican Friends
We here at R Cubed, we’re like the Pinkertons, agents all over. One of my high ranking opperatives spotted the weekly anti-war/pro-war protest over at Speedway and Euclid. These have taken an electoral tone as of late, with the pro-war protestors carrying signs for Republican candidates.
There was a group of people holding Jon Kyl and Ron Drake signs. The Drake supporters also had a new sign:
Deport Grijalva
Ah, classy guys. If you don’t get the joke, you see Raúl Grijalva is Hispanic, so we can send him back to Mexico, right?
There are also bumper stickers being circulated around town that say “Deport Grijalva” as well.
Before anyone claims that this is about policy and not about race, why haven’t there been any “Deport Pederson,” “Deport Giffords,” “Deport Napolitano,” or “Deport Flake” for that matter?
Well, Napolitano could sound Hispanic, but, she’s of Italian descent. God knows, the Republicans wouldn’t mock people of Italian descent, would they?
Just so you know, Grijalva was born here, his family having moved from Canoa (near where Randy Graf’s favorite Green Valley golf courses are now). His father had come to Arizona as part of the bracero program, the World War II program to bring Mexican farmworkers here to fill the gaps for Americans that were fighting overseas. Funny, no one was asking for them to be deported then.
This, along with the earlier “American Name” incident, tells me that many of the folks that come out for Drake don’t seem to understand that merely having a Spanish surname doesn’t make you less American. I find this particularly insulting, given that my Hispanic ancestors were here one hundred years before any significant Anglo population was here. I guess they all needed to be deported.
17 Comments
October 27th, 2006 at 7:59 pm
Oh, come now Tedski. A sign that says “Deport Grijalva” is nothing. I’ve seen protestors carrying signs that have read “Bush is a Nazi”, “Bush=Hitler”, “Stop American Imperialism”. That’s pretty assinine and frankly just ignorant. I happened to be in Tucson today too, and drove by the same street rally. I saw anti-war protestors on one side of the street, and I saw pro-Kyl/Drake people on the other side. I would hardly call people supporting a candidate “pro-war” protestors. I seem to recall a number of hispanic people with the Kyl-Drake people too, and they didn’t seem to be making a fuss about the Grijalva sign.
October 27th, 2006 at 8:39 pm
I sometimes wonder if people who make logical fallacies in their arguments are just not able to tell when they do it, or if they know, but don’t really care. I’m not sure which would be worse.
Anyway, Guard, you just made three of them in one paragraph. If you’re interested, they’re:
Tu quoque
Biased Sample
Argument from Ignorance
You know, for whatever that’s worth.
October 27th, 2006 at 9:08 pm
I didn’t think the “American name” thing was appropriate, but supporting illegal immigration and the Aztlan/MEChA deal as a whole certainly justifies such a sign. Comparing this to the time when the CR’s called off a protest of the Cesar Chavez building renaming ceremony (out of fear of losing the election), it’s very nice to see they have balls now.
October 27th, 2006 at 10:25 pm
You’re right, the Bush=Hitler signs are stupid, offensive and peurile. However, you would be hard pressed to find a Democratic candidate sanctioning the carrying of those signs. In fact, you’ll find many of these people consider the entire Democratic ticket sell-outs.
October 28th, 2006 at 12:29 pm
ED SAID Having a Hispanic name as you state does not make you any less of a American. Having the name Raul Grijalva along with the mind set of a third world anti-American approach to most matters does. Being Raul is a citizen and can not be deported, is it alright just hang him
October 28th, 2006 at 12:49 pm
tedski,
If this were my blog I would delete the comment by “ej.” Maybe you should bar klansmen and their sympathizers from writing here.
You decide.
October 28th, 2006 at 4:08 pm
Liza-
Hanging is the proper punishment for treason. And there are many who have valid reasons to believe the R “owl” Grijalva has committed treason on many occasions. He supports and is a member of groups that are working to reclaim the southwestern United States for Mexico. A regular citizen can’t even do that without having serious charges of treason leveled. And Grijalva is in Congress.
ej didn’t say anything about lynching or whatever you seem to assume makes him a klansman or one of their sympathizers. Just like when I have said in the past and repeat here that John Kerry should have been hung for treason long ago, that was not the comment of a Klansman or supporting their sick form of torture and murder of people who have committed no crime, except being born the wrong color in the mindset of twisted racists. Hanging is the proper punishment for the crimes that Kerry has committed. Just like lethal injection or the electric chair would be proper punishments for the other Senator from Massachusetts who committed murder and got away with it, although I’m not sure if they had the death penalty where Ted Kennedy murdered that poor girl at the time of the crime or that the statute of limitations has not passed.
October 28th, 2006 at 6:40 pm
Hey - how come nobody is focusing on the real issue here. The blatantly RACIST anti Italian video Ted linked to!
You know Tedski, the T in Mister T is for TONY and I won’t put up with you sanctioning such discrimination.
Oh — and to these other people posting here about how horrible Grijalva is ….
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA
…
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
You make me laugh. Invite me to your next flag burning will you? I’m sure the flames will illuminate your hateful faces JUST ENOUGH for the snap shot I’d love to take to shame you in the eyes of REAL americans.
You know the kind that are respectful of others, regardless fo their race, religion etc.
October 28th, 2006 at 8:20 pm
ej/206,
Your comments reveal you both for the contemptible anti-American fascist vermin that you are…
October 28th, 2006 at 9:58 pm
206ISCANCER.COM–What groups does Raul Grijalva belong to which are working to return the southwest U.S. to Mexico? Are you talking figuratively or legally or both regarding this reclamation?
October 29th, 2006 at 8:39 am
ej and 206,
You are both full of racist trash talk and stupid lies that are disseminated by the hate culture that align yourselves with. I have only question for you. Are you using the 400 thread count for your sheets? It drapes better than the 200.
October 29th, 2006 at 10:02 am
Treason? Holy smokes. If this is treason, what is lying about the reasons for a war?
October 29th, 2006 at 11:05 am
kralmajales,
I believe the international community would call it a “war crime.”
October 29th, 2006 at 1:48 pm
206,
Here’s a little story straight from the 10-11-2006 news headlines although I’m sure it wasn’t reported on fair and balanced Fox news:
“A new medical study says the number of Iraqi deaths since the US-led invasion has reached more than 655,000. The study was carried out by many of the same researchers behind the Johns Hopkins University survey that put the death toll at 100,000 two years ago. Researchers based their findings on interviews with a random sampling of households taken in clusters across Iraq. The newest survey yielded the same estimate of immediate post-invasion deaths as the first one. Attacks from US-led coalition forces accounted for thirty percent of the reported deaths. The actual number of dead could be higher. The 655,000 figure represents an estimate of “excess deaths” – people who wouldn’t have died had the US not invaded.
The study is already coming under criticism. Anthony Cordesman, an analyst with the Center for Strategic & International Studies said the researchers were playing politics ahead of the November mid-term elections. In response, University of Michigan professor and Middle East scholar Juan Cole wrote: “Is he saying that 18,000 households from all over Iraq conspired to lie to Johns Hopkins University researchers for the purpose of defeating Republicans in US elections this November?””
You may not be aware of this, but statisticians have developed methods to estimate the number of people killed in wars, epidemics and other situations where an accurate body count is not available. Those time honored statistical methods have been used on both occasions where there has been a study to estimate the number of Iraqis killed as a result of the 2003 US invasion.
Of course, there were so many good reasons for all those people to die:
1. Saddam Hussein has weapons of mass destruction that he is going to use against the US at any moment.
2. SH is linked to Al Qaeda.
3. SH is linked to 9-11.
4. SH is a really bad guy.
As you weep for the unfortunate young woman who drowned while she was with Ted Kennedy, perhaps you could find it within yourself to feel something for the 650K Iraqis who were unfortunate enough to be born on top of all of our oil.
Oh, yes, and such a strategic location for our permanent military bases that have been built by Halliburton and their subsidiaries.
Empire, hegemony, and oil is what these people were killed for. You want to talk about treason? What a laugh. What a f****** laugh. Go back to your stupid little right wing talk radio world where stupid little people agree with you.
October 29th, 2006 at 8:36 pm
this kind of stuff makes me wish for a simpler time in Arizona politics, a time in which we as a state elected politicians with names like Raul Castro
October 30th, 2006 at 8:43 am
joe,
I find myself wising for a simpler time almost everyday. Sorry, pal, neither of us are going to get it. Maybe some of the comments on this thread illuminate what we are up against.
We live in serious times.
October 30th, 2006 at 9:19 am
why haven’t there been any “Deport Pederson,” “Deport Giffords,” “Deport Napolitano,” or “Deport Flake” for that matter?
Because they can’t find any Indians with enough time on their hands to stand on a corner with those signs all day?
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